10" Tough One youth saddle note the deep seat. pick up at our shop in Clarkrange TN this one is 7" gullet full quarter horse bars . Do note do have similar saddle that fits a pony if need pony/min bars. note how far the fenders go up on this one and if still not short enough some people remove fenders and attach the stirrups using dog collars belts or English leathers till child grows into the fenders